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    Shielding Gas

    I have been using Hobbyweld for 8 odd years, but both my bottles are empty which has prompted a gas review!

    I blast through the smaller Hobby weld bottle in what seems like no time, but I don't fancy the £205 deposit for a big bottle.... twice

    Wasn't expecting BOC to be so cheap!


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    Quick google of Edinburgh welding supplies

    http://www.installoil.co.uk/products...gas/argon.html

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    Bit far for you?

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    Hoho

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    Open a trade account up

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    BOC cheap

    Prices are plus vat, plus they charge extortionate delivery or collection charges! then you will be paying rental whether you use the gas or not, BOC = Rip off Cunts

    And your graphs are bullshit, no cylinder sizes or bar pressure, so how can you even begin to compare

    Even then, for an example an £80 deposit adams 20ltr will last you more that 2 years as a hobbyist. With BOC that will cost you £120 + vat . And once you have paid BOC that money it has gone. At least with a company like Adams you still have £80 value in the bottle if you return it!

    When I was an Adams stockist you would need to buy 3-4 BOC "Y" size bottles a year to compared to Adams to make it worth while. You have made your chart just to convince yourself that BOC are cheap

    Lets presume a 5% (argoshield light) 20ltr bottle will last you 2 years!

    Adams will cost you £150

    BOC will cost you £162.80 (on top of this they will charge you collection or delivery)

    3 years

    Adams = £150

    BOC = £213 +D/C

    So you think, nah I will do one bottle a year!

    Adams = £150

    BOC = £100.20

    But you are forgetting you still have £80 equity in the adams bottle so its actually costing you £70

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    And for your info, I stopped stocking Adams gas in Feb 2016. At the time I had a new 20ltr 5% on my MIG. I only finished that up two weeks ago! Ok it depends on what you use but my mig doesnt sit idle for long periods of time!
    Last edited by Al; 09-11-2018 at 11:11 PM.

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    Yep, the 2nd list means absolutely bush to me too. There’s no information on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elroy View Post
    Quick google of Edinburgh welding supplies

    http://www.installoil.co.uk/products...gas/argon.html
    Those prices are similar to Adams

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    My gas bottles are about 5’ tall and I pay £30 rental each a quarter and refill price are £72 for argon and £63 for migmix

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    And please also stop using this term ‘hobbyist’ as you’re just the same as us, you don’t personally make things on a commercial scale. I personally weld more than you do and I’ll put money on it.... tig and mig, so I could call you a hobbyist

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    We were using gas direct at work but just swapped over to energas as their rental, refill and delivery was cheaper than gas direct. They offered free rental for the first 3 months.

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    I had boc for years and it ended up costing £90 per year to rent the bottle (t size) i had the same bottle for 5 years.... ended up putting it back half full.
    Bought a hobbyweld bottle at the start of october just to do the welding on my van

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitty85 View Post
    We were using gas direct at work but just swapped over to energas as their rental, refill and delivery was cheaper than gas direct. They offered free rental for the first 3 months.
    That’s who my account is with.... energas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elroy View Post
    And please also stop using this term ‘hobbyist’ as you’re just the same as us, you don’t personally make things on a commercial scale. I personally weld more than you do and I’ll put money on it.... tig and mig, so I could call you a hobbyist
    Lol, nothing changes.
    That's not gonna happen though, coz your a prick! And I'll stay here just to annoy the fuck out of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_T View Post
    Lol, nothing changes.


    Alright Ballbag

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    Then we should look at Oxygen prices too!
    A Caddy is for life not just for Christmas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elroy View Post
    And please also stop using this term ‘hobbyist’ as you’re just the same as us, you don’t personally make things on a commercial scale. I personally weld more than you do and I’ll put money on it.... tig and mig, so I could call you a hobbyist
    Was that aimed at me?

    Its true that since giving up my workshop and started farming work out, I dont do no where near as much welding as I once did, but when I do weld its for a living and for parts made for others, so im not a "hobbyist"! Like it or not, you are welding for your hobby, regardless of how much you do, so you are also a hobbyist!

    Anyway, my answer was aimed at Alistair who does not do a great deal of welding, and which is why I and the gas suppliers use the term "hobbyist"!

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    Lol, you’ve just contradicted yourself. When you’re doing paid work..you’re a so called pro and when you’re doing work for yourself.... you’re a hobbyist too!

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    However I do do a great deal of leaving the bottle open

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