Reverend Grant
09-04-2004, 11:51 AM
Greetings,
I've got an '81 fuel injected pickup; it ran fine and then I had to park it for most of the last two years outdoors. It may have been driven while I was away and run into the ground; not sure.
Now it won't start. It's got spark, but gets no fuel. It will run on misted starter fluid just fine for as long as I want to lightly mist the intake.
If I manually pull up the airflow gate at the filter, I can get it to run on its own fuel for maybe 3-7 seconds.
With the key on, I cracked open the lines at the tank side of the filter, got fuel; at the distributor side of the filter, got fuel; at the regulator out, got fuel; regulator in, got fuel; cold start valve, got less fuel; fuel tank return, got fuel, but virtually none at any of the four injector outlets on the fuel distributor, unless I manually pull up the air gate again while turning over the engine, in which case I'll get a tiny dribble.
For the heck of it, I pulled and inspected the fuel filter; it was fairly new before it was parked, but it had about a teaspoon and a half of sediment to shake out, so I put a new fuel filter on. Now the engine will almost start on its own, maybe run for 5-10 seconds, then starve for fuel again.
Removed and inspected pressure regulator piston and spring/shims; seems clean and free.
I have a fuel pressure gauge, but do not have the correct adapter for VW, so, I found the volume test in a Haynes manual. Following their instructions, I bypassed the relay, and got:
• 650cc/30 sec. at the distributor -> tank return line (900cc spec)
Extrapolating on their test's presumption that a low value indicates either a bad pump or "trouble with the accumulator", I also tested and got:
• 700cc/30 sec. at the accumulator -> to filter (no spec listed)
• 1300cc/30 sec. at the fuel pump -> accumulator (no spec listed)
Does this sound like a bad accumulator? Is it clogged, or is it meant to generate that kind of volume restriction? Might I just have a tired pump, capable of lots of volume, but no real pressure or volume under standard restriction? I've replaced lots of fuel pumps on VWs, but never once have I even heard of an accumulator going bad (frankly, I never really paid attention to its existence in the first place).
Is there another reason why fuel might flow through every point of the fuel distributor -- albeit at less volume than I expect -- except out through the injector feed lines?
The pump sounds good; quiet, strong, no rattles, whines or howling, as others have done to me in the past. It does not draw too much current, and does not blow fuses or trip the relay.
I will try to find a pressure line adapter tomorrow, but any info or advice tonight would be great. Oh, and anyone know where to buy one for a good price? I only found one online for $181.00 (!!!).
Cheers
Rev. Grant
I've got an '81 fuel injected pickup; it ran fine and then I had to park it for most of the last two years outdoors. It may have been driven while I was away and run into the ground; not sure.
Now it won't start. It's got spark, but gets no fuel. It will run on misted starter fluid just fine for as long as I want to lightly mist the intake.
If I manually pull up the airflow gate at the filter, I can get it to run on its own fuel for maybe 3-7 seconds.
With the key on, I cracked open the lines at the tank side of the filter, got fuel; at the distributor side of the filter, got fuel; at the regulator out, got fuel; regulator in, got fuel; cold start valve, got less fuel; fuel tank return, got fuel, but virtually none at any of the four injector outlets on the fuel distributor, unless I manually pull up the air gate again while turning over the engine, in which case I'll get a tiny dribble.
For the heck of it, I pulled and inspected the fuel filter; it was fairly new before it was parked, but it had about a teaspoon and a half of sediment to shake out, so I put a new fuel filter on. Now the engine will almost start on its own, maybe run for 5-10 seconds, then starve for fuel again.
Removed and inspected pressure regulator piston and spring/shims; seems clean and free.
I have a fuel pressure gauge, but do not have the correct adapter for VW, so, I found the volume test in a Haynes manual. Following their instructions, I bypassed the relay, and got:
• 650cc/30 sec. at the distributor -> tank return line (900cc spec)
Extrapolating on their test's presumption that a low value indicates either a bad pump or "trouble with the accumulator", I also tested and got:
• 700cc/30 sec. at the accumulator -> to filter (no spec listed)
• 1300cc/30 sec. at the fuel pump -> accumulator (no spec listed)
Does this sound like a bad accumulator? Is it clogged, or is it meant to generate that kind of volume restriction? Might I just have a tired pump, capable of lots of volume, but no real pressure or volume under standard restriction? I've replaced lots of fuel pumps on VWs, but never once have I even heard of an accumulator going bad (frankly, I never really paid attention to its existence in the first place).
Is there another reason why fuel might flow through every point of the fuel distributor -- albeit at less volume than I expect -- except out through the injector feed lines?
The pump sounds good; quiet, strong, no rattles, whines or howling, as others have done to me in the past. It does not draw too much current, and does not blow fuses or trip the relay.
I will try to find a pressure line adapter tomorrow, but any info or advice tonight would be great. Oh, and anyone know where to buy one for a good price? I only found one online for $181.00 (!!!).
Cheers
Rev. Grant