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Al
11-03-2017, 10:40 AM
I have been deliberating and looking at various ways of keeping the forum going for some time, but am unable to find a suitable solution as any income is not enough or on going!

The forum cost "Just Caddys" 7-800 per year to keep online, and that's without any personal commitment from myself or Jim. The problem is that only 2% of sales are generated through the forum, and the same cost buys half a page in a very well known VW magazine for a year!

Therefore I am about to start the process of giving the hosting company notice to carry out a backup of the database and then to close the account.

This decision has not been taken lightly as we have been online 14 years this very month! But this decision has been gaining momentum for a while now.

There are several factors involved in the decision on top of the cost's outlined above including:

1. Only a handful of the same people are engaged in posting on the site.

2. We use a massive amount of bandwidth due to casual browsers using the site as a resource

3. Social media has killed forums outright, which you are all guilty of using instead of posting on the forum!

So for those reasons we will join the rest on Facebook, which is a SHIT platform, but its a FREE one!

I will advise the date of closure as as I pay for hosting 3 months in advance, and im not quite sure where we are with that as I need to check

THE END

Al

Rich_T
11-03-2017, 11:11 AM
That is a shame, not least because I really will have no friends when that happens but its your money so I get the reason why.

Have you not thought of approaching someone like vertical scope to take it over?

Rich_T
11-03-2017, 11:46 AM
What would it take to keep it open?

mickw
11-03-2017, 12:05 PM
Holy fuck - that's my whole social life going down the swanee

13
11-03-2017, 12:10 PM
Work productivity increase: 400%


This is terrible news. I totally understand your reasons though.

As above - what can we do to support it? Many have suggested donations?

I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and get fb :bh

tontoe
11-03-2017, 12:13 PM
NOOOOOOO !!!!!
As above cant we all help???

It will be adios from me
as i refuse to joint the dreaded Facebook

Rich_T
11-03-2017, 01:36 PM
It will be adios from me
as i refuse to joint the dreaded Facebook

Same here, Ive managed to stay away from it until now plus frome what Ive seen facebooks layout is shit anyway. Doesnt MLBV run the facebook site, thats reason enough to stay away lol

tontoe
11-03-2017, 01:58 PM
Same here, Ive managed to stay away from it until now plus frome what Ive seen facebooks layout is shit anyway. Doesnt MLBV run the facebook site, thats reason enough to stay away lol
Exactly!!!
I would gladly pay a subscription.to help keep the forum going
Lots of Other forums ask for a subscription. Before you can view post etc which may help reduce band width

Al
11-03-2017, 02:29 PM
There are not enough regular members to donate or have a subscription to cover the above costs. A few quid bung in every now and again is not enough.

Forums in general are a dying breed now that social media has taken over! I hate FB as much as the next man and is a shit platform for a community due to its layout (or lack of it). But the generation of people now are largely lazy and want one login for their whole life, and cant be arsed to log into forums now.

And without trying to sound funny there are members & past members on here who contribute largely to various Caddy related facebook the pages that have nothing to do with this website so its partly your own doing!

The ones that will suffer from this is only a small number of people, the rest of the "parasitic" visitors are the ones pushing the hosting cost through the roof (These are the FB experts who use this website as a source of knowledge)! I tried making the website members view only but it destroyed or SEO, and they just register to get the info anyway!

I will get a full backup of the DB before its closed so the info will still be there if anything changes in the future

dirtbikedave
11-03-2017, 02:29 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOO!

I'll happily pay a donation.
I've just deleted my facheache app because Ive decided that I want a real social life and I need to stop phishing for likes!

29751

Elroy
11-03-2017, 02:43 PM
Does this mean, I won't have biscuits in my life anymore.

Now that upsets me......

13
11-03-2017, 03:11 PM
What about a paid "memyers only " so us sad acts can still chat shit

That would keep band width down and we could all pay 10 year to cover costs

worthingcaddy
11-03-2017, 03:24 PM
ah man, that sucks but i'm not surprised. i often feel like I'm talking to myself on here, few years ago every evening there would be tonnes of new threads with countless members interacting. I use FB but don't follow any car pages other than the caddy forum pretty much because i hate the modified car scene. i will be genuinely gutted when this forum shuts :(

worthingcaddy
11-03-2017, 03:27 PM
where am i going to ask questions about everything now? i literally learned everything i know about engines and the caddy because of this site

slim
11-03-2017, 04:00 PM
I feared this day would come:cry:

It seems a distant past when you came on here after a day at work trying to catch up on 4 pages of posts!
I'm guilty of turning to faceache as the forum got quieter and I needed a strong fix of car related material, but lets be honest it's less sociable you can't find anything more than once but it's where it's at these days!

What's going to happpen with the vw action camp out?

blenki
11-03-2017, 07:00 PM
VW action will still happen Slim, it'll just be arranged on the caddy forums Facebook page

I fear it would take more then a tenner each to save the site.
If we said on average theres about 20 forum regulars, who post constantly????

Sad times indeed

tontoe
11-03-2017, 07:19 PM
VW action will still happen Slim, it'll just be arranged on the caddy forums Facebook page

I fear it would take more then a tenner each to save the site.
If we said on average theres about 20 forum regulars, who post constantly????

Sad times indeed

Totally agree. what about the ones who dont do face book??
Im going to put my money where my mouth is and offer 100 towards keeping it open for a year. Its 2 quid a week ffs.

Sorry 1.92 to be precise. Its worth that just to see elroys newly built motor blow up !!!!!!!

My Little Brother's Van
11-03-2017, 07:24 PM
Doesnt MLBV run the facebook site, thats reason enough to stay away lol

always gotta have a dig haven't ya?? well, by the looks of it, you have three months to get a few more in...

for the record, i always link to this forum when applicable, and apart from my ecu bloke, only ever recommend parts from the caddy shop...

and it isn't 'the facebook site' it is one of many and is only really for the mk2..

Rich_T
11-03-2017, 07:27 PM
Totally agree. what about the ones who dont do face book??
Im going to put my money where my mouth is and offer 100 towards keeping it open for a year. Its 2 quid a week ffs.

Sorry 1.92 to be precise. Its worth that just to see elroys newly built motor blow up !!!!!!!

Id match your 100, anyone else?

tontoe
11-03-2017, 07:33 PM
Id match your 100, anyone else?

Nice one !!!

webb-781
11-03-2017, 07:35 PM
Sad times but I understand the forum has been getting quieter and the money has to come from somewhere.


where am i going to ask questions about everything now? i literally learned everything i know about engines and the caddy because of this site

This is so true. My caddy was the first car I bought and up until then I hadn't really touched a spanner but the forum has taught me so much and now I don't think twice about working on anybody's car. Will be sad to see it go :cry:




If we said on average theres about 20 forum regulars, who post constantly????

Sad times indeed

I may not be a regular poster but I bet you I check the forum at least 3 or 4 times a week(maybe more :I). Just because I don't post that often doesn't mean I wouldn't be willing to contribute.


Id match your 100, anyone else?

Couldn't do 100 without the missus finding out and going nuts. I could definately do 50 without her knowing and would be happy to do so every year.

All you would need is 14 people paying 5 a month, Im sure there would be enough takers.

Forgive my ignorance but isn't pro boards free???

m6m62
11-03-2017, 07:39 PM
I will. I'm a massive tight arse but would miss it too much. If Al's done with it for a number of reasons, maybe somebody could take over ? I'd offer myself but am shit with computers and always seem to be working nowadays.

tontoe
11-03-2017, 07:42 PM
We are up to 300 then come on anymore

Elroy you have been buying all kinds of shit you dont really need lately !!!! Match my 100 quid

B1G VR
11-03-2017, 07:53 PM
I can do 100.00 if it helps Al.

tontoe
11-03-2017, 07:54 PM
We are half way there !!!

worthingcaddy
11-03-2017, 07:55 PM
elroy would be paying 100 just to take abuse from everyone haha. he is a dick though, lets not forget that (love you elroy kiss kiss)

tontoe
11-03-2017, 07:58 PM
Thats 500 then !!!!

B1G VR
11-03-2017, 08:01 PM
Thats 500 then !!!!
Did you miss webbs 50.00

tontoe
11-03-2017, 08:03 PM
No got that B1GVR even counted elroy for 100 even though he hasnt confirmed it lol

worthingcaddy
11-03-2017, 08:08 PM
elroy is rolling in it so he can just front the lot. cheers elroy, you're the best

B1G VR
11-03-2017, 08:14 PM
Tontoe 100.00
Rich T 100.00
Webb 50.00
BIGVR 100.00

Thats It,so far?

tontoe
11-03-2017, 08:18 PM
Sorry i was counting on elroy and m6m62 giving a donation

m6m62
11-03-2017, 08:29 PM
Sorry i was counting on elroy and m6m62 giving a donation

Yes, I'd do 100

B1G VR
11-03-2017, 08:38 PM
Tontoe 100.00
Rich T 100.00
Webb 50.00
BIGVR 100.00
M6M62 100.00

13
11-03-2017, 08:40 PM
I'm in

Or would potentially take over hosting if we closed the forum to non members an each paid a few bob

Think the last hosting I bought was 80/yr.... And that was a flop so might as well use it for something lolol

tontoe
11-03-2017, 08:42 PM
Tontoe 100.00
Rich T 100.00
Webb 50.00
BIGVR 100.00
M6M62 100.00

Im sure Al would be happy to pay 100 after 14 years of paying it all

tontoe
11-03-2017, 08:43 PM
I'm in

Or would potentially take over hosting if we closed the forum to non members an each paid a few bob

Think the last hosting I bought was 80/yr.... And that was a flop so might as well use it for something lolol

Does that mean your in for a ton 13

B1G VR
11-03-2017, 08:43 PM
I'm in

Or would potentially take over hosting if we closed the forum to non members an each paid a few bob

Think the last hosting I bought was 80/yr.... And that was a flop so might as well use it for something lolol
How much mate?we will add it to the total.

InferdRhythm
11-03-2017, 08:47 PM
Nooooo this tragic news !!

This IS my social media lolol

F*ck Facebook ! And all the others...

This forum is such an inspiration and fountain of knowledge !

My caddy certainly wouldn't be what it is today if it wasn't for this site (it'd probably be in much better shape/more standard, but that's no fun)

And even though I'm not building a caddy, I hate the thought of not being able to browse through other people's builds for inspiration... (The Mazda forum kinda sucks, hard) ...



My broke ass can't afford 100, but I could definitely do 20 now, another 80 in the summer season

13
11-03-2017, 08:49 PM
Does that mean your in for a ton 13

Yeah cool.

Also I did investigate merch before, we could buy over priced shit tat and make some forum profit. I'll dig out the emails

tontoe
11-03-2017, 08:50 PM
Nooooo this tragic news !!

This IS my social media lolol

F*ck Facebook ! And all the others...

This forum is such an inspiration and fountain of knowledge !

My caddy certainly wouldn't be what it is today if it wasn't for this site (it'd probably be in much better shape/more standard, but that's no fun)

And even though I'm not building a caddy, I hate the thought of not being able to browse through other people's builds for inspiration... (The Mazda forum kinda sucks, hard) ...



My broke ass can't afford 100, but I could definitely do 20 now, another 80 in the summer season
It all helps we are nearly there !!

B1G VR
11-03-2017, 08:52 PM
Tontoe 100.00
Rich T 100.00
Webb 50.00
BIGVR 100.00
M6M62 100.00
Inferdrhythm 20.00

tontoe
11-03-2017, 08:53 PM
You beat me too it kev you missed 13 so there is another 100
So its
Tontoe 100.00
Rich T 100.00
Webb 50.00
BIGVR 100.00
M6M62 100.00
Inferdrhythm 20.00
13 100

B1G VR
11-03-2017, 09:01 PM
Come on you lot,put your money were your mouth is.;)

tontoe
11-03-2017, 09:06 PM
I recon if AL chucks a ton in we are nearly there

B1G VR
11-03-2017, 09:09 PM
There are plenty of others that should chuck some in instead.:rolleyes:

tontoe
11-03-2017, 09:11 PM
Exactly noticed MLBV didnt offer !!

k-dogg
11-03-2017, 09:26 PM
I'm not a big poster but I drop in every week or so to catch up on stuff. Would Def pay a few quid a year membership tho.
Sad to see the forum go, Facebook sucks!

mickw
11-03-2017, 09:46 PM
I'm in - what is the pensioeer rate? Fuckit have a ton

B1G VR
11-03-2017, 10:04 PM
Tontoe 100.00
Rich T 100.00
Webb 50.00
BIGVR 100.00
M6M62 100.00
Inferdrhythm 20.00
13 100
MICKW 100.00

tontoe
11-03-2017, 10:32 PM
I'm not a big poster but I drop in every week or so to catch up on stuff. Would Def pay a few quid a year membership tho.
Sad to see the forum go, Facebook sucks!

Exactly. We are nearly thare

dirtbikedave
11-03-2017, 10:33 PM
I'll happily put a ton in as well.
Dunno where from though....

13
11-03-2017, 10:41 PM
While this is a good plaster, we need some sustainable solutions...

Any thoughts?

tontoe
11-03-2017, 11:06 PM
The good Thing is we will have just under a year to think about it! But its definitely something that needs to be addressed going forward!

andyscaddy
11-03-2017, 11:36 PM
I have been on this forum for nearly 7 years now and check in nearly every day. Definitely seen a drop in useage but it still gets alot more use than some of the other forums that are still going. I dont have face ache so wouldn't know how this forum would work on there. I would happily pay some dollar towards keeping it going. Fuck it put me down for a ton too. We need to find a more sustainable solution though if we are gonna keep it going for more than the next year.

bigbenbird
12-03-2017, 01:21 AM
I can happily throw $50 in the pot

BBB

blenki
12-03-2017, 05:56 AM
I'll happily help, and i'm sure the other VW action / forum regulars would too
monkey
Cadby
Budda
Paul
Sam
etc
etc

If it was a case of raising the money, i'm sure we could all divy it up between us

Its up to Al at the end of the day

B1G VR
12-03-2017, 07:28 AM
Tontoe 100.00
Rich T 100.00
Webb 50.00
BIGVR 100.00
M6M62 100.00
Inferdrhythm 20.00
13 100
MICKW 100.00
dirtbikedave 100.00
andyscaddy 100.00
bigbenbird $50.00

chas71
12-03-2017, 07:37 AM
It'll be sad too see this forum close.:cry: but I can see why Al has chosen too. I've been a memeber since 2008 and have learnt a lot from here. Had some good laughs aswell. it's the best forum I use. Maybe I could have contributed more:i_dont_kn. If it helps I'll happly pay to keep it going.

worthingcaddy
12-03-2017, 07:59 AM
What everyone needs to do/ needed to do is post! Rather than just come on and have a look. I'm pretty skint at the moment but I can stick another 50 in the mix!

RNRHALL
12-03-2017, 08:25 AM
Yeah, I'll do a ton as I DON'T do Facebook.

13
12-03-2017, 08:47 AM
I've said it in the past, but the rx community forum fduk is closed unless you log in. Then there's contribution option.
I dunno how much bandwidth our regular 50 would need?

I'm sure a clever monkey could add a " target" money bar to show progress towards a reduced bandwidth quote.


Then if we noggin together and make some more great how to s then there's a reason to join?

B1G VR
12-03-2017, 10:23 AM
Tontoe 100.00
Rich T 100.00
Webb 50.00
BIGVR 100.00
M6M62 100.00
Inferdrhythm 20.00
13 100
MICKW 100.00
dirtbikedave 100.00
andyscaddy 100.00
bigbenbird $50.00
worthingcaddy 50.00
RNRHALL 100.00
Mhod 50.00
rodmax 25.00
CADBY 100.00
MIKE.F 30.00
hw30vw 50.00
whelp 50.00

tontoe
12-03-2017, 10:35 AM
Looks like we have enough to carry on then. rodmax has messaged me to say he will put 25 to the fund. Just need to let Al know

13
12-03-2017, 10:43 AM
What are we buying Al as a leaving present lolol

dirtbikedave
12-03-2017, 12:39 PM
http://www.vwcaddy.com/showthread.php?83453-Forum-closure

Rich_T
12-03-2017, 02:32 PM
I just looked through my phone and realised that all my recent whatsapp messages are to people on here, when we go away its with people I've met on here, when we try and give our dog away its to someone on here and I even have lovers tiffs with a certain member on here. I have no life without this place.

* I didnt really try to give my dog away, it was more complicated than that lol

blenki
12-03-2017, 02:58 PM
I just looked through my phone and realised that all my recent whatsapp messages are to people on here, when we go away its with people I've met on here, when we try and give our dog away its to someone on here and I even have lovers tiffs with a certain member on here. I have no life without this place.

* I didnt really try to give my dog away, it was more complicated than that lol

I thought you'd lost it, you never reply to me
you prick!


So between us all it looks like we will more then be able to cover the costs

Its up to Al now

Rich_T
12-03-2017, 03:41 PM
Im such a bellend! Did you change your number at some point?

blenki
12-03-2017, 05:38 PM
Im such a bellend! Did you change your number at some point?

might have done.

I've txt you about at least 3 jobs and never had a reply

Rich_T
12-03-2017, 05:48 PM
Text me again and I'll make sure it's the right number i have

h30 vw
12-03-2017, 09:32 PM
I would donate 50, I have learned a lot on this site and will miss it if it folds

fuus
13-03-2017, 12:11 AM
I think the point here is reducing traffic to keep costs down, perhaps migrate the forum to something which requires a log in to access.

On a side note Al, do you think the fact people do their research on here leads them to purchasing? I know there is no direct traffic flow, but I for one wouldn't have spent around 500 in your shop without this resource's existence

whelp
13-03-2017, 09:26 AM
i can bung a 50 in no problems.

i fucking hate facebook and i'm not going to join it.

i have a job interview on Thursday, if i get it i'll make it a ton!

dirtbikedave
13-03-2017, 09:51 AM
What are we buying Al as a leaving present lolol



At this rate he can buy his own, twice!

B1G VR
13-03-2017, 04:25 PM
Tontoe 100.00
Rich T 100.00
Webb 50.00
BIGVR 100.00
M6M62 100.00
Inferdrhythm 20.00
13 100
MICKW 100.00
dirtbikedave 100.00
andyscaddy 100.00
bigbenbird $50.00
worthingcaddy 50.00
RNRHALL 100.00
Mhod 50.00
rodmax 25.00
CADBY 100.00
MIKE.F 30.00
hw30vw 50.00
whelp 50.00
thenamesdaryl 50.00
danthevanman 30.00

dirtbikedave
13-03-2017, 06:29 PM
You should keep this up Al.
Nearly 1500 already!!!

Harry-tdi
13-03-2017, 06:47 PM
I know I'm guilty of not logging in anymore (bang)
But it really would be a shame to see the forum close :(

B1G VR
13-03-2017, 07:20 PM
Don't think its good enough myself,its shows who cares and who clearly don't give a fuck.

B1G VR
13-03-2017, 07:23 PM
You should keep this up Al.
Nearly 1500 already!!!
Its been going since 2003,funded by Al.

tontoe
13-03-2017, 07:25 PM
I think it was a kick up the arse many needed.

B1G VR
13-03-2017, 07:49 PM
I think it was a kick up the arse many needed.
Not hard enough for some,don't think the good should pay for the tight fuckers.

dirtbikedave
13-03-2017, 07:52 PM
Don't think its good enough myself,its shows who cares and who clearly don't give a fuck.



Well Al obviously prefers FB to Caddy.com as he's just posted 2 things on there about bodged axle flips.
Iyes I know it's easier to post with pics but I thought that this site was his baby??
Same with his Yankee pickup he has for sale..

B1G VR
13-03-2017, 08:04 PM
Well Al obviously prefers FB to Caddy.com as he's just posted 2 things on there about bodged axle flips.
Iyes I know it's easier to post with pics but I thought that this site was his baby??
Same with his Yankee pickup he has for sale..
If you have nothing good to say,Fuck off there too.

dirtbikedave
13-03-2017, 08:37 PM
Fuck of cunty and less of the abuse!
I wasn't saying anything not good at all, just stating facts!
If you can't understand the queens English then fuck off back to school where you got bullied religiously. (I know btw)
Al's initial post on this thread was stating that Facebook is more popular and he's closing the site because members seem to be on there more than here.

He's just proved a point.

Al
13-03-2017, 08:41 PM
Well Al obviously prefers FB to Caddy.com as he's just posted 2 things on there about bodged axle flips.
Iyes I know it's easier to post with pics but I thought that this site was his baby??
Same with his Yankee pickup he has for sale..

Actually it was shared from my business page to promote Retrofication, you will rarely ever see me posting on Caddy facebook pages unlike some! In fact the only time I post on those pages is when someone has tagged me and its business related

And as for my F100, that was on my personal page not on any Caddy pages, plus I cannot imagine people on on here queuing up to spend 10k on an American truck!

Al
13-03-2017, 08:43 PM
Thanks for all the offers of financial support guys. I will have a look at some options in the next few days and keep you in the loop.

dirtbikedave
13-03-2017, 08:43 PM
I did think that about the F-100.

fuus
13-03-2017, 09:02 PM
Something to also consider is Ads Al, especially on the pages which get heavy traffic, i.e. guides

dirtbikedave
13-03-2017, 09:33 PM
Something to also consider is Ads Al, especially on the pages which get heavy traffic, i.e. guides



I was thinking this last night too. Instead, on all pages.

Fisherman
13-03-2017, 11:43 PM
Just picked up on this,thick Cornish fisherman and all that,Ill happily contribute to keeping it going,do think some sort of yearly subscription would be a good idea though,pretty sure this came up a couple of years ago and Al picked up the tab....

bigbenbird
14-03-2017, 12:19 AM
Yeah a annual membership fee of x amount.....

Get free sticker or some such thing…

Similar to what clubgti does

BBB

LewisEvans
14-03-2017, 03:26 PM
Don't think its good enough myself,its shows who cares and who clearly don't give a fuck.

No regrets! (Har har this is tongue in cheek)

ScotClayShooter
14-03-2017, 09:10 PM
I will bung in 50 , this place has saved me a lot of time and money with advice on mods and problems.
Im guilty of posting on the mk2 caddy inca page on facebook but direct everyone i can to here same as MLBV does.

tontoe
19-03-2017, 08:40 PM
Thanks for all the offers of financial support guys. I will have a look at some options in the next few days and keep you in the loop.

Any news Al

Ernie
19-03-2017, 09:33 PM
I'd like too contribute ,,only be on here a few yrs but owned mk2 of which you lot got me through,,and of course my mk1 of which you all had a part in with help revolutions and using the caddy shop too get panels suspension etc ,,and now I own a mk3 ,,, so please put me down ,, I don't post as much ,,but I'm always having a nose ,,,

I know the t4-t5 forum pay annual fees ,,and if no fee is paid they can't post,, ------ so I'm in guys ,,

mugglesquop
20-03-2017, 08:35 AM
i'll put 20 in (if someone buys my crap i'll put more in), and would be happy to pay a yearly subscription

i pay yearly for various clubs, usually 15-20 a year each

Jango
20-03-2017, 05:32 PM
I'd definitely pay a subscription or make a donation.
I tend to be inconsistent in my use of the forum but it does not reflect the usefulness and appreciation I have for this forum. I began my voyage into 'caddy world' because of the tremendous banter and sense of community that has emerged from this wonderful group of Folk that have been so supportive and understanding of my wish to share this common interest.

I'm not a big fan of BookFace. If I can help in any way, I will.

13
29-03-2017, 10:04 AM
Any update Al? I haven't given in and signed up to fb yet :thumbs_up

Al
29-03-2017, 05:44 PM
Will look at it after the financial year is finished, I dont have time to concern myself with it just now as im flat out

Beardo
04-04-2017, 09:11 AM
Been a member since '08 and whilst I haven't been on here much recently, I'll happily chuck 50 in the pot and would be more than willing to pay a yearly subscription.

LewisEvans
11-04-2017, 04:10 PM
Is it still final? Or is there a pot?

nicko868
28-06-2017, 04:19 PM
I don't often get on here much any more due to having bigger things on in life other than my caddy at the minute unfortunately but I would be more than happy to chuck in and or pay a sub .... might motivate me to get back on with the truck !!!

13
28-06-2017, 08:57 PM
Fucking redneck!! Get your sizzle sorted out pal!!